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Anders Jallai

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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:AUTHOR. As far as his writing goes, the only attempt at a notability claim here is that his work exists, which isn't automatically enough in and of itself -- writers have to show that they pass WP:GNG on significant third-party coverage and analysis about their writing, not just use ISBN and Libris links to verify that their work exists. And the other attempted notability claim here is that he led a search for a missing plane, which wouldn't be "inherently" notable without a GNG-worthy depth and volume of coverage about that either.
But for sourcing, what we've got here is one deadlinked directory entry that isn't support for notability at all, and one deadlinked (but recoverable via Wayback) National Geographic article that briefly glances off Jallai's involvement in the plane search without being about him in any non-trivial sense, which thus isn't enough to magically vault him over WP:GNG all by itself. And while the Swedish interlang is longer and features more referencing than this, it's still based mainly on primary source directory entries that aren't support for notability, alongside a small smattering of more short blurbs about the plane search that also briefly mention Anders Jallai without being about him, so that article also doesn't have sources that could just be cut and pasted over to salvage this.
As I don't have access to archives of Swedish media coverage, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody who does have such access can actually find enough substantive coverage to salvage the article, but nothing in it is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have more and better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 19:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Catalina affair#Recovery, the WP:ONEEVENT for which he is notable. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:49, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Passes WP:AUTHOR, recipient of H. M. The King's Medal which shows notability. Herinalian (talk) 19:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awards don't clinch notability if your source for the award is the self-published website of the award. Since an award has to be notable in its own right before it can make its winners notable for winning it, the source for an award claim has to be media reportage that treats the award presentation as news, in order to demonstrate that the award is notable in the first place. And that's even more the case for general honors that can be presented to absolutely anybody for absolutely any reason, as opposed to being a defined awards program for achievement in a specific domain like literature or film. Bearcat (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding Bearcat's point Czarking0 (talk) 01:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - There are more sources on sv.wikipedia.org: [1] JeffUK 15:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I addressed that in my nomination statement: those are also virtually all primary sources or short blurbs that briefly namecheck Anders Jallai without being about Anders Jallai in any non-trivial sense, and thus aren't GNG-building sources. Bearcat (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alessandro Ortombina

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Non-notable Italian rugby player who fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this. JTtheOG (talk) 22:04, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Plays for USA Perpignan in the Top 14 (France's elite division of rugby). Recent academy graduate ([2]). Has played only EPCR Challenge Cup matches. 80 minutes in total ([3]). Does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NSPORT and WP:SPORTCRIT. QEnigma (talk) 10:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Giacomo Milano

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Deleted article which was recently recreated with no significant improvements. Clear fail of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 23:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seeing there are multiple Italian Ruby players up here made be look below WP:SPORTCRIT to see if there was a Rugby specific guideline. Seeing that there is WP:NRODEO but no Rugby guideline. Makes me think WP could use a Rubgy guideline. I do not have enough subject matter knowledge to want to attempt that though Czarking0 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Basically all primary sources in the sense that they are published by the institutions he plays for. Does not seem to be notable enough in other respects. Googling his name only returns basic player stats. I also tried Italian google news and he does not come up. Czarking0 (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of programs broadcast by Tooncast

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I would have draftified the article, but that has already happened and the creating editor reversed the move. At the moment, the article is a simple listing without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit. As an alternative to deletion, I would support re-draftification so that interested editors can source and reference it properly. SunloungerFrog (talk) 23:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I would argue that the context resides in the main article of which this is a standard SPLIT. Keep or merge back if size is not considered an issue; don't delete.-Mushy Yank. 23:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- If that's the case, it's not clear to me what list or article it has been split from. From its revision history, I do note that Tooncast has had many instances of very similar content added and then reverted as unsourced (on occasions citing WP:NOTTVGUIDE too) over the past year to the extent that page protection was requested. I don't know if the creation of this article is related to that activity. SunloungerFrog (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete No originally programming. No reason to list what every television channel in the world has on it at any given time. Not what Wikipedia is for. Dream Focus 12:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why? The programming, original or not, is of interest for the history both of the channel and of the broadcast of the said programs. In terms of navigation, the existence of categories (containing similar lists, that are very standard) is an excellent tool for the reader who wants to compare various channels' programs, for example. Or various channels from the same region/country, etc. How can one know what the channel is like if one does not know what they broadcast? -Mushy Yank. 21:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A bunch of old shows that have been on multiple channels over the years. Whatever company owns the rights to them now, just tosses them out on their channels as filler. Some of the shows listed are from the 1960's, and I seriously doubt many people watch them these days. Dream Focus 22:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Young Liberals (UK)

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Only one source is independent and third party (Guardian) but does not mention article subject at all. Lists of members names feels like WP:PROMO, or WP:NOTDIR. Looked for sources but nothing with WP:SIGCOV - most mention orgs with the same name in other countries.

I have also nominated English Young Liberals, Welsh Young Liberals and Scottish Young Liberals for deletion, if sources could be found they could be redirected to this article however there have been templates seeking verification on this article since 2020. All would be best redirected to Liberal Democrats (UK) Orange sticker (talk) 22:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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What troubles me here is the led indicates it is not the same org as National League of Young Liberals because the liberal democrats are not the same thing as the Liberals. My knowledge of UK politics might be lacking here. I worry about promo tone on Luisa Porritt. Czarking0 (talk) 01:27, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welsh Young Liberals

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Most sources are not independent or third party, or do not mention subject at all. Could not find WP:SIGCOV. Orange sticker (talk) 22:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Scottish Young Liberals

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No independent, third party sources. Can't find any WP:SIGCOV. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Orange sticker (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It's Okay to Not Be Okay (Philippine TV series)

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This television series has no mention of release date yet. Only cast announcements and filming. There were independent sources in this article besides ABS-CBN, which is considered first-party source, but not enough. A case of WP:TOOSOON. JRGuevarra (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify - This upcoming TV series was already covered by various media outlets as early as 2022, though they mostly relate to casting announcement or such. I'm not sure if those constitute notability per WP:GNG, but I can't find any other decent coverage that would provide an overview for this series. For now, I'm leaning towards draftify. If other editors find this article worth retaining with strong argument, then I might as well revise my recommendation in favor of them. But draftify for now. AstrooKai (Talk) 12:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The show already mentioned a 2025 release date, as part of ABS-CBN's upcoming programs for the new year. The first teaser was shown on the night of December 10, 2024 at the Araneta Coliseum in Quezon City. Gino March (talk) 13:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rib Lake-Prentice Hawks

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Results from invitationals and other events for a high school/junior high cross-country team and its young participants (minors listed by name in this article) is not a notable encyclopedic topic. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete High school teams are not notable and WP is not the place for students' individual results. Reywas92^Talk 22:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel McLean (writer)

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inexplicably declined - despite no evidence of notability - being a "kindle author" is meaningless in the absence of actual meaningful coverage, of which there is none. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 21:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - (As I had to go and look to work out what you meant by 'Inexplicably declined'...) Your nomination for a speedy deletion was declined, with the perfectly clear explanation that "the Kindle award is enough to get past an A7, and the article is not promotional". Speedy Deletion is for a very strictly determined subset of articles. JeffUK 15:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Doesn't meet WP:GNG, the Amazon source is not neutral, and the bookseller source alone isn't sufficient. There are a few mentions around of McLean attending book signings and the like, but they're also not really neutral as it's a commercial engagement being advertised. JeffUK 15:29, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History of World Chess Championships

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WP:REDUNDANTFORK of List of World Chess Championships from the version around a year ago, would like to request redirect, as WP:BLAR was unsuccessful DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 20:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. Not a fork. The article was significantly supplemented, updated and improved. Teterev53 (talk) 20:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What is the distinction between the two? If this is just a supplemented, updated, and improved version of List of World Chess Championships, then it is a supplemented, updated, and improved fork. Is there a reason you didn't suggest the improvements to the original article? Remsense ‥ 论 21:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because History and List of (tournaments) are the different topics! It's very strange to write about history in an article where there is only a list. Teterev53 (talk) 21:18, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Articles, including stand-alone lists, are meant to be self-standing to a degree, with adequate context provided to a previously reader such that they can understand the list itself. There is no remit for this article as described that is not adequately covered by either the existing section of World Chess Championship or by List of World Chess Championships. Encyclopedic coverage of tournaments comprises mostly history to begin with: there is no History of the Super Bowl, History of the World Series, History of The Open Championship, History of the Olympics for this reason. There is History of the FIFA World Cup, to be transparent with a counterexample, but the outsized scope in that case is much more clear. Remsense ‥ 论 21:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article of World Chess Championship exceeds 100k in size. So, per WP:SIZESPLIT: The article almost certainly should be divided or trimmed. Teterev53 (talk) 21:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The wikitext is over 100,000 bytes. Surely you do not think the article is over 100,000 words in length, if you're looking at the page you're citing—World Chess Championship is presently 6,700 words, which is a bit on the lean side and has plenty of room for growth. Remsense ‥ 论 21:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect again per nom; redundant fork of an existing list, with an AI-generated "Overview" section lumped in to give a semblance of legitimacy. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A needless fork of List of world chess championships which is completely redundant to that page and World Chess Championship. Quale (talk) 21:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you propose to delete History of the FIFA World Cup only due to existence of the List of FIFA World Cup finals? Fantastic misunderstanding. Teterev53 (talk) 21:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you could write this article to look anything like that one, it would be a different story. In reality, the glaring disparity between History of the FIFA World Cup and this article proves the point why one should exist and the other should not. Remsense ‥ 论 21:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Issues with the article's text are not reasons for its deletion. Work on the article is ongoing and progressing as a long-term effort. Teterev53 (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was clear above that I was considering this article's potential in addition to its present state. Remsense ‥ 论 21:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What would you add in some hypothetical future improvement to your vanity fork that wouldn't be better placed in the long established World Chess Championships article? Quale (talk) 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again. Issues with the article's text are not reasons for its deletion. There are many books are published about the history of WCh, so the topic is notable itself. History of the Copa Libertadores, for example. Teterev53 (talk) 22:18, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Lists can, and usually do, have prose. Unless the history of something is very substantial and separable, they are usually found in the same article. (Just to avoid any confusions about lists among anyone) (just trying to help with the AfD, but not gonna reply directly, to avoid any repetition of the talk page or the ANI thread.) DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 21:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The history of the World Chess Championship already exists in wikipedia in World Chess Championships. This vanity fork is doubly redundant. Quale (talk) 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are many books are published about the history of WCh, so the topic is notable separately of the tournament. Teterev53 (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you are seemingly aware, that does not by itself justify the spinning off of a new article. Remsense ‥ 论 22:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is the history of something separably notable from the thing itself? Unless you think that you could write an article for what the WCC is now, and how it was different before- bcs it's literally been a lineal line from then till now, played with matches. (You mention books, but all sources you have added until now have been unreliable websites mostly.) Also, yoi are supposed to give concrete examples, not just say, of course, there are sources present; if there are, I'm sure it can be shown how the stuff in it somehow only relates to one of the three. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 22:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The mindset is overly focused on the ability to make a distinction without any consideration as to whether it's actually useful for editors or readers, and not in effect a totally redundant liability to both. If the OP continues to dodge the central argument while swatting at points that have already been implied or addressed, it is hard to see them as arguing in good faith—vanity would be an apt description. Remsense ‥ 论 22:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Redirect, or Draftify. There is indeed a lot of history out there. At present we are covering it with a combination of World Chess Championship and List of World Chess Championships. The present situation, in which the new article is mostly poached from the older two, is plainly unsatisfactory. If a separate article is worth doing, one must first identify what topics it will cover, and then write about those topics. Until a lot of this has been done, either the article should be in draft space, or it should be offline. Bruce leverett (talk) 02:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English Young Liberals

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No independent or third-party sources. Structure section just consists of a list of names which seems like WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. No significant coverage in Google News, one passing mention in Google Books. Orange sticker (talk) 19:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, but in dire need of improvement — I would certainly prefer it being kept as opposed to deleted. Failing that I would prefer it be draft-ified or the like.

I had previously stub-ified the artcle by removing vast amounts of content in this edit and here. I was hesitant to do such but believed it to be needed due to verifibility concerns and to avoid a directory article. After that I'd put it on my radar of pages needing additional content.

I believe that EYL scrapes GNG, from a quick gander using the book search, it seems to be mentioned at least in more than one book (Though firefox seems to be preventing me from using preview to look in the books rather annoyingly), though as you said no significant news coverage. I may be mistaken, but I believe the EYL have had some different names in their past as well which may have better coverage, but I'm struggling to recall or pull up what they were (Which doesn't really help the case I suppose).

I'm under no illusion that this isn't a weak case from me however, and I believe you're right to have brought this up Bejakyo (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the book mentions may be a reference to National League of Young Liberals which is not the same org Czarking0 (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first two hits I found in Google books are the merest passing mentions, not wp:sigcov. I also proposed a redirect to Liberal Democrats (UK) in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Young_Liberals_(UK) after making this nomination.

Orange sticker (talk) 10:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Rex

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Total promo nonsense article, sourced to passing mentions with nothing meaningful in the way of actual coverage - and the only mentions of Rex are again, in passing, if even that. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 19:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dont label an article that I spent my time and effort working on nonsense. Talk to me with respect. Cokeandbread (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete: I was asked to review this article earlier. I tagged it as relying too heavily on primary sources. It seems like with how long this person has been around and the circles they trade in it would be easy for him to be notable by some metric, but his projects and interviews have no independent coverage and there's little to nothing I could find that discusses him in an impartial way. Recon rabbit 20:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man. Cokeandbread (talk) 21:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I created the page so let me explain why. I will start like this.

In the early days of Instagram verification, before Instagram gave out verification, they didnt know how to select who was worthy of being verified and why those people were worthy and others were not. So they found a solution. One of the criteria they used to determine if someone was notable to be verified was to check out the number of DMs said person from other verified accounts. Getting DMs from verified accounts meant you were notable too. E.g an obscure music producer getting DMs from different big musicians meant he was notable even though he wasnt famous. Afterall some notable people work behind the scenes. Jimmy Rex's Show have had some great people on the podcast. In Wikipedia we call those "associates". Lots of people who have Wikipedia articles have been guests at his show. A non notable podcaster wont pull notable guests to his podcast.

There is something else I should point out. There was a debate about Giannis Antetokounmpo, and how his opening sentence should be worded. The bone of contention was whether he should be labeled as a Greek or a Nigerian-Greek. What put that argument to rest was a video from YouTube. In the video he said that he represents both Nigeria and Greece. These are the scenarios when Youtube videos can be employed. In Jimmy Rex's case, these notable guests are talking by themselves for themselves. You watch the video and see them. It is verifiable. When you say primary source, do you know that you mean that the words are coming from Jimmy Rex's mouth? And in this case, are they? Cokeandbread (talk) 21:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read what WP:SOURCING is, because I'm not going to explain it to you. It details the different types and the fact that your article is a raging advertisement sourced to blackhat SEO doesn't help. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:YOUTUBE-EL.

And about SEO blackhatting, you are simply projecting, because I never had the intention for such. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain how I am projecting? What does that mean? GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some signs that you might be projecting onto me:

• You make assumptions about my intentions. With no good faith.

• You accuse me of doing something that you yourself might be guilty of.

• You seem overly sensitive to my words or actions, as if you’re taking them personally. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Define projecting. Cause this isn't it. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont have time for this. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not seeing in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. A ref-bombed promo article, most likely COI/paid editing. Edwardx (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I created the article, I wrote a sub section about his controversy and I was asked to remove it because it was negative. Now, the article seems like a promo because it is too nice? Okay.

Also Read WP:YOUTUBE-EL. Cokeandbread (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I recommended that the controversy section be removed because controversy sections are generally a poor idea, especially on a biography of a living person. Vice News was not a strong enough source to justify it. Recon rabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Every single source is either a passing mention, not independent of the subject, or about a different subject entirely (referring to one of his guests). Plus, there is WP:TRIVIA being used to puff up the citations list: Guatemala is one of his favorite travel destinations? An NBA star crashed one of his parties? Who TF cares. Not notable. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A Wikipedia article with minimal citations but clear notability. Deletion of notable Wikipedia pages because of fewer citations can set a dangerous precedent. Gracefoundme (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks to me like there are plenty of citations, but many of them are weak in terms of reliability and are not independent of Jimmy Rex. Recon rabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. From what I see I believe the Wikipedia article is notable. The creating editor seems naive so I think it is creator issue, not a notability issue. Keep and keep improving. Wallclockticking (talk) 18:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red Barrels

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Fails WP:NCORP. There seems to be no significant coverage. The focus of the sources are the Outlast games, not the company itself. Suggesting redirection to Outlast as an alternative to deletion. Mika1h (talk) 18:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to its claim to fame (Outlast). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there is clear coverage in at least two existing sources (edge and gi.biz) about the founding of the company that meet the independence of NCORP. That might be tied to talking about Outlast but that's expected for a developer that has focused on one series since founding. Masem (t) 21:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the edge article currently on the page?--CNMall41 (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Master Artisan Guitar Picks

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Company is one guy selling guitar picks through Etsy. Notability seems pretty questionable, with almost all the sources being, um, "popular" websites like The Awesomer, BoingBoing, and LaughingSquid. All of which links that I tried are dead. The only functioning link seems to be a Tennessean article of the "spotlight on a local business variety." It's something, but Google has nothing else, and if you take away all the promo and dead links, there isn't much of an article left. Mbinebri (talk) 17:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete The Tennesseean article is WP:SIGCOV, and possibly the Guitar Player as well if it weren't a dead link. All other sources are either product reviews or gift guides. One more reliable non-promotional source and I would be inclined to keep. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete To me, this is a promo of this specific brand name picks. Half of the article is devoted to reviews and press coverage. Compare that with any link in the navbox at the bottom. The navbox leads the reader to specific methods and some of the famous pickers who have developed their ow particular style. — Maile (talk) 00:55, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shafiqa Zawqari

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Unnotable yemeni short story writer. All sources in this article are broken. No significant information about him could be found on the Internet. SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 16:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I'm not sure what you mean by the sources "are broken". One is a scholarly book from a university press that is available on JSTOR and Oxford Academic. The other is a peer-reviewed article from an academic journal. I've added a link to the latter. Gamaliel (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kepler-1047 c

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Non-notable exoplanet, the bibliographies of exoplanet.eu and NASA Exoplanet Archive only show database coverage about it. Fails WP:NASTRO. Might be redirected to List of exoplanets discovered in 2016. 21 Andromedae (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question. I'm no expert on this topic, but is the following statement run-of-the-mill for exoplanets, or is it something exceptional: "The planet has a fast year of just 3.2 days. It is not far from its star, but only 0.0434 astronomical units from its parent star."? Athel cb (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Athel cb, I have been through the references and surprised to see that none of them mentioned the text The planet has a fast year of just 3.2 days. It is not far from its star, but only 0.0434 astronomical units from its parent star. Also searched the web about that and realised that it's not something extraordinary. Meanwhile the NASA website stated about that Planet[4].––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just found more exoplanets with such info, TOI-2109b, Kepler-78b, K2-137b. Mentioned all could prove that the stated sentence about that specific exoplanet was just a run-of-the-mill.––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have quite a lot planets with such low orbital periods, so they are not individually notable. This is not a very remarkable charateristic that is not seen in any other planet. 21 Andromedae (talk) 12:40, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It might be a bit unusual in that it's an Earth mass planet orbiting very close to a Sun-like star. There's probably an interesting story in how it got down to that orbit. Perhaps a migrating gas giant that has been stripped of its atmosphere? Unfortunately, there don't appear to be any studies so it's not notable at this point. Praemonitus (talk) 06:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mark Stephenson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 14:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - there's some coverage that appears to indicate Stephenson is at least regionally notable, like this from the Newcastle Chronicle, and this in same, as well as coverage in Malvern Gazette of his business ventures outside of the sport, but it's nothing incredible. I do think WP:3SOURCES is met, just about. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethics of simulated suffering

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Does not appear to be a robust philosophical concept needing its own article. Two sources provided are self-published and not covered by reliable independent sources. The "connection to catostrphic risks" seems like WP:OR/WP:SYNTH and not directly supporting the notability of the concept itself. If anything, a brief mention of ethical concerns in simulated reality seems sufficient. ZimZalaBim ^talk 15:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the concept is notable enough in itself. But some of it could probably be merged into the article ethics of uncertain sentience. Alenoach (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Committee of Concerned Journalists

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Last AfD was 17 years ago with promises to work on the article. I'm not finding significant coverage and with this organization no longer existing unlikely to be any new sources generated. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 15:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Meaney (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - decent Irish coverage available - RTÉ (a little routine but still a headline in a national broadcaster's site indicating national prominence), KCLR (similar to before but not quite as notable as RTÉ), a circa 1k word piece entirely about Meaney and his career in The Kildare Nationalist and another piece of coverage in The Nationalist (Carlow version so separate from the prior newspaper). Of these the Kildare Nationalist piece is strongest and combined the sources indicate regional notability, imv. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Omonuk

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Fails WP:BIO. In full disclosure I have removed WP:CITEKILL/WP:BOMBARD prior to nominating it here. The items removed added no value. There seems to be a campaign to get this perosn an article. See also Draft:N-O. I have also filed an SPI on the various parties involved, at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Clare Nassanga. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Some articles in this news site [5], mostly interviews or quotes. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per nom. Axad12 (talk) 17:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Insufficient depth of coverage from reliable sources; just mentions and press release sorts of things. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At Home With Cherry Twister

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Does not appear to meet WP:NMUSIC. I can find no evidence that the album charted, or won any awards. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: AllMusic and the New Zealand Herald are both reliable sources and those reviews are solid. The Borack book entry is basically a review in itself, and also a solid one. Seems like enough to meet GNG/NMUSIC#1 to me. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Pro reviews and other coverage are sparse, but there is enough for the type of basic article that is common for an album of this magnitude. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What "magnitude", though? That's the problem. I can find no evidence the album charted at all. We don't have articles for every album, only notable ones. Meanwhile, sites like AllMusic will review a multitude of releases, because, well, that's their business. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Cherry Twister. The sources are fine, but really a bit thin for a standalone article. Both the band article and the album article are short, which makes the merger beneficial. Geschichte (talk) 20:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator after sources discovered. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spirit of the Stones

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Fails WP:GNG, only a single review is mentioned on Lemon 64. Searching for sources came up with numerous magazine advertisements for the game, but no actual reviews of it besides the mentioned one, making it likely to not be notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Does anyone still play games on a Commodore 64? Do younger people even know what a Commodore 64 was? Athel cb (talk) 14:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People do still play games on it... there are new games coming out for it, even.

It was slightly before my time, but I still know what it is because after all, Wikipedia is the world's greatest reference material :P ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, just about. There's another review in Commodore User 16, and a news article in Commodore Computing International 1984-11. Looks like it was a tie-in for an armchair treasure hunt book (book, solution), but the book and its author don't have articles else I'd suggest merging. (And to answer Athel cb's questions above, yes and yes - try searching on Twitch!) Adam Sampson (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There's also this 2022 article about the book and game on an IoW local news site. Adam Sampson (talk) 17:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I did see the ones in Commodore User 16 and Commodore Computing International, but despite the fact that they seem like news, I believe they're actually advertisements. The font is clearly different from the rest of the magazine and they have nothing negative to say about anything written about there. The typical stuff is also in a different part of the magazine. I'm also dubious about the 2022 article; it doesn't have much to say about the game itself, and is only about its marketing campaign. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  No, those are clearly not advertisements - that's what 80s (and 90s!) UK computer magazines looked like, and magazines generally weren't critical about new releases in the way we'd expect of games reviewers today. The CCI issue with the news article also has a separate review of the game a few pages later which refers back to "the story page 29". Adam Sampson (talk) 19:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Ah. If you are indeed sure it's the real deal, I have no qualms about withdrawing the AfD. No need to waste time on needless bureaucracy. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rugby School Japan

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This article is about a branch of Rugby School, only opened a year ago. I think that it is WP:TOOSOON for it to be likely to meet WP:GNG or WP:NCORP, and indeed I cannot find significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. There was an article in The Rugby Advertiser in 2019 about the planned school, but this is local coverage and about a third of the article was a statement from Rugby School. There was an interview with the head in Relocate magazine, but I am not sure that this is a reliable source - the magazine's About talks about sponsored content. There is this article in the Sustainable Japan section of the Japan Times, which is a reliable source, but again it is mostly an interview. There is also an article from the British Chamber of Commerce in Japan, but this is not an independent source. I added a section on overseas branches to Rugby School, and redirected this article there, but another editor reverted this; so bringing it here for the community's view. Tacyarg (talk) 11:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Rugby School. There is also a Rugby School Thailand which should really be considered together to avoid trainwrecks. Can that be added to this nomination? These are new ventures that purportedly are creating overseas campuses of Rugby school. Rugby is clearly notable, but the only thing making these other sites notable is the Rugby name, which is a clear case of WP:INHERITED. They are, per nom., too new to have gained any independent notability. They should, however, be discussed on the Rugby school page. There is mergeable content and the redirects would preserve former content and provide a pathway for readers to locate the relevant information in the relevant parent article. Spinout could occur if and when they become independenltly notable. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had redirected Rugby School Thailand too - having put brief details of both schools in the Rugby School article first - but that was also reverted. I had considered AfD for that too, but have not yet had time to carry out WP:BEFORE for that branch and it has been going longer (2017) so there may be more coverage, so was holding off on that. Happy for it to be bundled with this discussion though if people want. Tacyarg (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RottenTomato0222 speaking here: I think both articles should NOT be deleted and be kept as independent articles for the following reasons: Though not many readers might recognise either Rugby School Japan or Rugby School Thailand, some teachers/families who are intended to move to those schools have the need to read about that school online whether if they're reading it on Wikipedia or not. Second of all, just because there's not a lot of articles dedicated to Rugby School's branches in Asia compared to the original school, there are tens of articles online discussing about Rugby School Japan and Rugby School Thailand, so we actually do have loads more to write on the article. Third of all, just because the article's discussion is not widely discussed doesn't mean that the article has to be deleted. As mentioned earlier before, there are people who really needs to read those articles. In addition, other world-famous school from the UK like Harrow School's branches in Asia have seperate articles on Wikipedia; like Harrow International School Bangkok, Harrow International School Hong Kong, Harrow International School Beijing, etc.. Furthermore, other UK boarding schools' branches in Asia other than Harrow School all have an article as well, for example; Haileybury Almaty, Marlborough College Malaysia, and Dulwich College Beijing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RottenTomato0222 (talk • contribs) 12:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It might look a bit messy and have some grammatically incorrect sentences or structures as I was writing that on a hurry. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFF is an argument to avoid at AfD, although here it raises an interesting question. Is this school a campus of Rugby School itself, or is it an international school in the way the Oxford International Schools (or Harrow) international schools, where these are legally independent private schools that affiliate to and adopt the syllabus of the affiliating body (e.g the Oxford Education group)? What is the legal arrangement? The page as it stands reads as if this is a campus of Rugby (which is a reasonably common arrangement, more so for universities). But if it is not really part of Rugby at all, but a legally independent private school that is permitted to use the Rugby name then a lot of what is on the page would necessarily be deleted and it is likely (as for a the Oxford International Schools) that there would not be notability of r an article as it would fail WP:NORG. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Answering your question, the legal arrangement is that Rugby School Japan is an independent private school, just like many other franchise schools. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hope that helps. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the school was set up by Rugby School? Looking at RSJ's website, it says Rugby School Japan is proud to be part of the Rugby School Group, an international network of pupils, teachers and senior leaders. The website for the original Rugby School says Rugby is in the process of developing a family of Rugby schools around the world, following the successful establishment of Rugby School Thailand. So should there be an umbrella Rugby School Group article, if notability is met, and then if we don't find RSJ notable, it can be mentioned there and a redirect in place? Tacyarg (talk) 11:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby School Japan, or should we call it RSJ, was indeed established by Rugby School, but that doesn't mean RSJ is part of Rugby School's campuses. In contrast, Harrow International School Bangkok for example, was established by a British private school, but still has a Wikipedia page on its own, rather than being merged with Harrow School. The reason is simple; going back to the Rugby Schools Group, that is a brand of a school set up by Rugby School, though their schools are still independent. Another reason; many British private schools in Asia might have opened under the name of their original school in the UK, but the operator of the school in Asia are different. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that this was not established by Rugby School at all. It is a venture of Clarence Education Asia [6], who seem to have funded the school and then partnered with Rugby School Group. This is a similar structure used by the Oxford Schools. The school is therefore not a campus of Rugby but an independent sister school that is licensed to use the Rugby name and branding, and follows a Rugby School Group curriculum. What this means is that it is a private for profit independent school. The appropriate notability guidelines are WP:NORG. My searches do not find independent sources that meet WP:ORGDEPTH, so we are still not at a keep here. The question is only whether an appropriate merge target can be found. I think there is still a case for a merge with Rugby School under a section called either "sister schools" or "Rugby school group". The alternative is there could be a Rugby School Group article per Tacyarg, and that could then cover all such schools. Failing these alternatives, my view is that it should be deleted as it currently lacks independent notability, but my preference is merge somewhere, and Rugby School remains my preference. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, Rugby School Japan is an independent school, either if Rugby School established it or not. Any school can be made into an article, even if it's operated under the name of another institution, unless the whole building is a campus of Rugby School, for example. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 08:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sean Reed

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Craig Ross (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This from Stuff is clear sigcov. Further coverage from the Dominion Post and again in same indicate he's of at least regional notability. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fabian Roosenbrand

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Frans Devooght

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Glenn Moody

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Multiple articles on glenn moody northernecho and glenn moody gazettelive searches on google plus glenn moody theguardian is a strong one tooCanary757 (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
five references added to the article now from three different sources.Canary757 (talk) 07:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per references added to article. Further coverage can be found in The Mirror (admittedly no consensus for reliability but the coverage indicates notability), Evening Gazette and a bit in the darts publication Dartn.de. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Barnard (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Davyd Venken

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kevin Voornhout

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Decent (but not astonishing) coverage available in RTV Noord, Dartfreakz, RTV Noord again and ED, indicating he's at least regionally notable. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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weak keep: The sources given above show some notability, I can't find much else but these are ok. Oaktree b (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Some further coverage on Dartfreakz beyond the one article already mentioned. 1, 2 (plus a lot of routine coverage of wins). Looks like there's also an article in Dagblad van het Noorden, but it's paywalled so I can't tell whether it's particularly significant coverage. Not astonishing indeed, but seems just about enough to pass. AddWittyNameHere 00:36, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Vishwakarma

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No reliable sources are available on google, I also tried searching in Regional languages but got nothing. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Taabii (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The highlighted individual meet WP:GNG under WP:SNG. A former director of the Indian Institute of Integrative Medicine ([7]) qualify under WP:NPROF and WP:NACADEMIC (#8) criteria. In addition, a search in Google Scholar reveal several scientific articles that have been credited to or published in collaboration with the same individual ([8], [9], [10] and [11]). The article however, require improvement and addition of sources. QEnigma (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ancillary weapon

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Fails WP:DICDEF with no evidence it passes notability criteria. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG. Does not warrant a stand alone article for explanation of a phrase (WP:NOT and WP:NOTDICTIONARY). QEnigma (talk) 14:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The term is well accepted and frequently used. But it doesn't need an article. A dictionary definition is enough. Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile development framework

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Cruft-magnet - unsourced and out of date list containing original research. Long tagged as such and nothing has been done to address the issue. Doesn't look as if there's anything of value to preserve by moving to other articles. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cornish Bakehouse

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Did a before search, and it seems all coverage is WP:CORPTRIV: "standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as: [...] of the opening or closing of local branches, franchises, or shops". Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Farakka Port

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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2009 Aéro-Frêt An-12 crash

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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT. Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary in nature since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have significant, in-depth, nor sustained continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Think it's enough to keep. Some news, large and well-known kind of aircraft crashing with fatalities. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever the aircraft type and whether the accident had casualties or not is not an argument based on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There was news coverage, but that alone is not a reason to keep. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Votorantim Novos Negócios

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Fails WP:NCORP This article was created by the sockmaster User:Edson Rosa. They have created many non-notable companies.

This was previous nominated for deletion but had no consensus. I am nominating this again as there's no justification so far to give the subsidiary its own article when article of parent Votorantim Group already exists. Imcdc Contact 06:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Phiwa Nkambule

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So this article was created by Phwaice who seems to be a WP:COI user judging by username and behavior. The article was previously nominated for deletion and the consensus was to redirect to a company article that is now deleted due to lack of notability. The article was then reverted by Carloschilo who also seems to have COI behavior.

The issue is this article from a quick glance seem to be nothing more than a PR puff piece for the subject which is basically WP:PROMO. There’s also issue of notability. The vast majority of sources are basically brief mentions of the subject. You have some which are interviews, so they are not independent. The subject is mentioned in a few lists, but these again seem more like mentions and not really in-depth.

This article probably needs to be rewritten from scratch to comply with Wikipedia standards. That’s assuming we get enough independent in-depth sources of notability.

Edit: There seems to be a lot of WP:SPA users on this article. Lenoviah, Iceemagic,SimonSemenya and NganonoMrico. Not sure if these are all WP:SOCK accounts by one person or if its basically a PR agency being paid to fluff this article.

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As previously stated my focus is primarily on articles of subjects linked to Eswatini, which are not many unfortunately as the country on has a 1 million population. This country is extremely under-covered. Here are a few examples that show notability of the subject:

1. https://www.google.co.za/books/edition/Entrepreneurs_Who_Changed_History/vAbnDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=phiwa%20nkambule%20entrepreneurs%20who%20changed%20history&pg=PT958&printsec=frontcover

2. https://www.google.co.za/books/edition/Simple_Algorithms/-IdeEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=phiwa%20nkambule%20simple%20coding&pg=PT23&printsec=frontcover

3. https://www.forbesafrica.com/cover-story/2019/10/14/forbes-africa-8-years-and-growing/

4. https://www.forbesafrica.com/under-30/2018/06/04/under-30-technology/

5. https://www.google.co.za/books/edition/Autonomic_Computing/nozJEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=phiwa%20nkambule&pg=PA1946&printsec=frontcover Carloschilo (talk) 09:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the sources above so far seem to be mainly about another subject but has a brief mention on the current nominated subject with most of them just stating his role founding non-notable companies. Also AFD consensus shows lists like Forbes 30 Under 30 is not considered a reliable source in establishing notability since every year there are 1,230 people under 30 years old placed on the list so it gives the impression it is more of a promotional tool. Notability should not be driven by being on the list although some of the objective information may be used to provide further context on the subject. Imcdc Contact 02:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment So now there are three pages affiliated with the subject that are now deleted due to lack of notability. Looks a bit like a WP:WG - Imcdc Contact 04:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Liz it appears a number of referenced online articles have been rot considering they are pre-2020 articles but there are references to physical newspapers like this one [12] and books which cover the subject. There are also video interviews done by CNBC on the subject. Maybe converting it to a stub may be a more reasonable because the subject is notable.

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Delete: Does feel PROMO, I can only find PR items [13]. Sourcing used now isn't helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 15:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Oaktree b it appears a number of referenced online articles have been rot considering they are pre-2020 articles but there are references to physical newspapers like this one [14] and books which cover the subject. There are also video interviews done by CNBC on the subject. Maybe converting it to a stub may be a more reasonable because the subject is notable. Carloschilo (talk) 12:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These are all brief mentions or interviews, none of which help show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Lance

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Does not meet notability requirements. There is nothing in the article to establish notability of this student newspaper, and there is no coverage in non-local sources. Note that The Lance published its last newspaper issue in 2019. The official website (which was updated in a 2020 edit) is for a student news blog with the same name. Johnj1995 (talk) 03:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No reason for this to be kept. This0k (talk) 18:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to University of Windsor. This is an old holdover from a different time in Wikipedia history, when media outlets were basically handed automatic presumptions of notability, regardless of sourcing, so long as their existence was verifiable — but that's long since been tightened up, so that a media outlet now has to be able to pass WP:GNG on coverage about it. But per WP:STUDENTMEDIA, university and college media outlets which are deemed non-notable should always be retained as redirects to the schools that they serve. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute fraternities and sororities

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Subject does not meet the WP:NLIST as there is a lack of independent third party coverage providing significant coverage of the grouping. PROD was removed but the issues with the article remain, so bringing it to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 03:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This 1914 book about the history of the college does go into the history of the fraternities at the school. College publications marketed to perspective college students feature the Greek life aspect of the school prominently: [15], [16], etc. Occasionally, the school gets mentions in academic studies on Greek Life like [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], Greek life is clearly an important part of this school's campus experience.4meter4 (talk) 05:33, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: This article has secondary sources throughout. One is Baird's Manual, the primary source about Greek letter organizations for more than 100 years. Another is the Almanac of Fraternities and Sororities, created and maintained by academics and published by the University of Illinois. Regarding, WP:NLIST, that is covered via the Almanac, which provides information by institution. I don't have access to the cited edition of Baird's, but it probably includes information by institution as well. In addition, when the data set is itself notable, combining that group meets standards for stand-alone list articles. Consider, for example, a list of notable alumni from a college; there is rarely a secondary source that covers that list of people, but the included alumni are individually notable.

Since several of these institutional GLO lists have recently been nominated for deletion, it is worth noting that these articles exist as a part of an agreement between WP:UNI and WP:FRAT. The former felt that complete lists of GLO were too much detail for university articles and the latter liked the ability to expand the level of detail, as in the way this article provides details about each GLO. This level of detail appears to be moving this list article toward the direction of University of Virginia fraternities and sororities, which is GA status. With that in mind, this article should be seen as a work in progress that can be moved from list article status, either as is or at a later date. Rublamb (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There has been no adequate reason for this being relisted when the responses (even when not bolded) have been for keep giving guideline-based reasons and the nomination itself being vacuous. We should not treat low quality nominations as having credibility. Thincat (talk) 12:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shalini Passi

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Unable to see enough SIGCOV to meet WP:NARTIST, WP:GNG or WP:ACTOR. LKBT (talk) 07:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: This nomination is a case of WP:6MONTHS. The previous nomination was closed just four days ago (on 11/12) with a consensus to "Keep."--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Port of Port Klang

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Port of "Port" Klang? It is a WP:CFORK of Port Klang, a leading port under the government-owned Port Klang Authority. See Google Books, Britannica and Google News. The Doom Patrol (talk) 07:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Port Klang, as information should be included in article about port. Djflem (talk) 07:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Port Klang is a settlement (or township), while the Port of Port Klang is a port located in Port Klang. -- খাঁ শুভেন্দু (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article about Port Klang is essentially all about the port. Should that information be moved to Port of Port Klang? Why? Seems Klang (city) is the settlement and Port Klang is its port.Djflem (talk) 00:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete Weird naming aside, there is no seaport by the name of "Port of Port Klang", and neither is there a settlement by the name of "Port Klang". The only local government that exists there is the Klang Royal City Council that administers the city of Klang. Content within the "Port of Port Klang" should have been migrated to the Port Klang article. hundenvonPG (talk) 04:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge useful content to Port Klang, as clear duplication and unneccessary fork. - Davidships (talk) 14:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biometric Consortium

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Non-notable program. Per a WP:BEFORE], there is no WP:SIGCOV, only routine coverage of conference announcements. Longhornsg (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dorsey Road Warehouse

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Non-notable logistics warehouse for the National Security Agency. The NSA likely has hundreds of such warehouses to store equipment, most of which do not pass WP:GNG, like this one. Longhornsg (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Saiyar Mori Re

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Unable to find independent sources with significant coverage. The existing sources about and around "Saiyar Mori Re" are mostly routine coverage and paid PR/brand content, failing WP:NFSOURCES. I am also unable to find the minimum number of full length reviews, so it fails WP:NFILM entirely. The sources mentioned in the previous XfD are paid PR, as evident from the bylines and reviews from unknown websites/blogs. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why was this added to the Actors and Filmmakers list? It's a film not a person. -Mushy Yank. 19:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: See precedent AfD and arguments presented by User:DareshMohan, for example. A redirect seems warranted anyway (same comment) so that I am opposed to deletion. -Mushy Yank. 19:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Freelance journalist/blogger, Brand promoted content and an article from an unknown website with no byline? Can you please read the nomination statement and WP:NFILM guideline once again and consider revising your rationale to a policy based one instead of how you feel about deletion? Here are some more PR articles that they have given out: [27], [28], [29] Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please read DareshMohan's argument? Gujarat is not a "country" but I consider the film meets NFILM's inclusionary criterion #3, if you really wish me to provide a link to a guideline. I'll stand by my !vote, if I may. I've added a couple of things to the page, rapidly. -Mushy Yank. 20:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All you have added so far is just brand promoted content, routine coverage and passing mentions with no bylines. Nearly five years on Wikipedia, yet how you interpret WP:NFIC to fit your own views is astonishing.

Here, "distributed domestically in a country" means distributed within India. This film didn't see the light outside Gujarat and we are not maintaining a database of films released in India, but rather of notable films released in India. Comparing WP:NFIC#3's weight of a film being released/distributed domestically in a country is nowhere close to that of a film being distributed within a state. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"didn't see the light outside Gujarat" is an absurd rationale. Indian cinema, being the largest producer of films globally, comprises multiple industries based on language and regional distinctions. The subject here being included in the Gujarati cinema, though less prominent than its counterparts like Bollywood or Tollywood, is still a significant part of this spectrum. Drawing a comparison between Gujarati cinema and the broader, more commercially dominant segments of Indian cinema is flawed. Keep in mind that Wikipedia:Notability is not a level playing field. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't bring essays here. If you want to change existing policies, start an RFC at Wikipedia talk:Notability (films).

The current guidelines only support films that are successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film-producing country. You have contradicted yourself by mentioning "Indian cinema, being the largest producer of films globally". WP:NFIC#3 does not apply to major film producing countries and if Saiyar Mori Re were a significant part of this spectrum, it would have received reviews in reliable sources. Instead, it only has paid PR. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep your tone out! this is a discussion space, essays, statements, facts and all are legit here. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It seems the nominator has completely overlooked sources from TOI and other reputable outlets (which still lack full consensus on reliability). With that, giving an additional consideration and collectively reviewing the coverage's from the sources from TOI, TOI 2, TOI 3, One India and from the Gujarati media: navgujaratsamay, gujaratheadline and abtakmedia as well as the film's feature at the International Gujarati Film Festival 2023 is enough for notability.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- TOI - Interview / Not independent / Pre-release coverage - Jun 14, 2022 (Part of PR)
- One India - Partner content as indicated at the top - July 14, 2022 (Part of PR)
- navgujaratsamay - Press release from trailer launch - Jun 27 (Part of PR)
- gujaratheadline - Same as navgujaratsamay article / Press release from trailer launch - Jun 25 (Part of PR)
- abtakmedia - Same as above / Press release from trailer launch - July 04, 2022
- International Gujarati Film Festival 2023 - Trivial mention / no awards
None of the above news media outlets covered or reviewed the film after its release. It seems you have overlooked both the sources and the nomination rationale. Would you mind sharing your source analysis below? Mims Mentor Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeraxmoira Before diving into a source analysis, could you clarify or provide evidence for your claim that each of all sources mentioned are "(part of PR)"? — MimsMENTOR ^talk 11:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lack of coverage following the film's release is sufficient evidence. Apart from that, the OneIndia article is marked as "Partner Content". As for the trailer launch, inviting all the news media is standard practice and has been done this way consistently. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point about the "partner content", I do agree with that. However, when I emphasized the need for "collective reviewing" and "additional consideration" of the sources. I recognize that the coverage may not be strong enough to 'firmly keep' the article, but your own analysis doesn't solidly push for deletion either, leaning more towards WP:BARE. As for PR evidence, there isn't concrete proof to back up that claim you made (when you are talking about policies). Pre-release/press release (earned media) coverage isn’t inherently promotional, and reputable outlets like TOI often feature pre-release interviews without the coverage being purely PR-driven. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 12:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are bringing in more essays to XfDs. Please understand that essays are not P&G and hold no significant value in XfDs. The TOI sources are insufficient for a standalone article, especially given that there are literally zero reviews available. There are three articles about the trailer launch featuring the same banner image, yet you believe this isn't sufficient evidence that the press was invited to the event. The sources here are nowhere close to meeting GNG or NFILM. If you disagree, please provide a source analysis that might help me better understand your point of view. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Essays arent binding, but they offer relevant interpretations in debates like XfDs, especially for borderline cases. Dismissing them outright doesnt negate their value in offering nuance. The TOI sources, while not extensive, still provide verifiable coverage. Prerelease coverage is common, even for non-blockbuster films. Moreover, you havent fully explained why multiple outlets covering the same trailer launch definitively proves PR involvement. The case is WP:BARE now. I believe I’ve made it clear what aspects of the discussion align with GNG, based on policy guidelines. The nominator seems fixated on a single point and dismisses valid considerations by labeling them "essays," which is unproductive. Since the conversation is going in circles, I’ll be stepping back. I suggest exploring more sources from Gujarati media to verify additional coverage of the film instead of narrowing the focus to a single angle.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 14:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, no source analysis? Cool. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why? to count in more essay? Sorry No! — MimsMENTOR ^talk 15:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: These sources can be used to write an article, but they certainly do not meet the standards required to establish GNG and there are no sources available after the film's release. Regarding WP:NFILM, there are literally no reviews for this film, despite it being released in the internet era. The fact that all the sources below greatly appreciate the film, its songs, trailer and its success, yet none of them have published a review, is quite amusing.

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Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movie-details/saiyar-mori-re/movieshow/92209803.cms				✘ No
https://www.aninews.in/news/business/business/k-brothers-produced-saiyar-mori-re-wins-the-hearts-of-the-audience-as-anticipated-after-the-trailer-release20220713132245/	Story is provided by GPRC (Global PR Connect)	?		✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/saiyar-mori-re-new-song-manda-lidha-mohi-raj-is-winning-hearts-on-the-internet/articleshow/92653580.cms	Entertainment Desk / No byline			✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/mayur-chauhan-on-saiyar-mori-re-i-am-feeling-akhand-mauj-exclusive/articleshow/92200116.cms	Interview			✘ No
https://www.zee5.com/articles/k-brothers-produced-saiyar-mori-re-wins-the-hearts-of-the-audience-as-anticipated-after-the-trailer-release	Story is provided by GPRC (Global PR Connect)	?		✘ No
https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/2022/Jul/08/meet-kariyas-saiyar-mori-re-celebrates-rural-flavours-of-india-2474459.html	Express News Service / No byline		~	✘ No
https://www.oneindia.com/partner-content/jay-kariyas-debut-film-saiyar-mori-re-is-out-now-and-the-audience-can-t-get-enough-of-it-3433537.html	Partner content	?		✘ No
https://www.mynation.com/entertainment/film-saiyar-mori-re-wins-over-the-audience-despite-its-experimental-approach-filmmakers-express-sigh-snt-reuiuy	featured content / No byline	?		✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/watch-saiyar-mori-re-makers-will-soon-drop-a-teaser/articleshow/92082623.cms	Entertainment Desk / No byline			✘ No
https://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/gujarati-films-go-global/81859967.html			Passing mention	✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/mayur-chauhan-unveils-the-first-look-of-his-saiyar-mori-re/articleshow/92034340.cms	Interview		Routine coverage from an Instagram Post	✘ No
https://navgujaratsamay.com/love-story-based-film-saiyar-mori-re--a-turning-point-in-the-gujarati-film-industrys-history/221700.html	Trailer launch press release	?		✘ No
https://www.gujaratheadline.com/%e0%aa%b9%e0%aa%b0%e0%aa%bf-%e0%aa%95%e0%aa%b0%e0%ab%87-%e0%aa%8f-%e0%aa%b8%e0%aa%be%e0%aa%9a%e0%ab%81/	Trailer launch press release	?		✘ No
https://www.abtakmedia.com/god-do-is-the-best-rural-areas-love-story-sayer-mori-re/	Abtak Media / No byline	?		✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/the-international-gujarati-film-festival-igff-returns-with-its-4th-edition-in-chicago-usa-this-year-exclusive/articleshow/101098950.cms			Passing mention	✘ No
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Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - WP:NEWSORGINDIA applies to many of these references. The sources assessment shows these to not be reliable as far as notability is concerned. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Source assessment table is thoroughly convincing. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Section 108 (film)

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Upcoming film that doesn't meet WP:NFF. Could be moved to draft space, but there's nothing in the article to show how this meets NFF. Ravensfire (talk) 04:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Move to draft space or display maintenance tags for more verified sources which are available. WP:NFF state Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles ... However, this article provide information albeit from an individual's point of view. In addition [30] provide some context as well. QEnigma (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: meets NFF with the coverage about production; filming has started and is well advanced, premise known, cast confirmed, production issues mentioned. Even if it is never released it would remain a sufficiently-notable production. -Mushy Yank. 12:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Since we cannot enforce NFF to movies which have reliable sources confirming the start of principal photography/production after filming began, deletion is not warranted.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conrad Stargard

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The books series in which this fictional character exists could be notable, but there is no good indication that he himself is. The only source I found that seems to talk about him is this book review [31]. Badbluebus (talk) 02:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep if you don't dispute that the book series is notable, then it should be rescoped to be on the book series, as we have no article on the series. That is what is usually done with old articles like this, scoped around the main character instead of the series, which we have some of - and as far as I can tell, the name of the series is just this character's name. Most of the plot material can be kept, it just needs to be shuffled around. And have reception to the series added. There are reviews of the books on ProQuest, so it is notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Al-Khair University

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It does not meet the criteria of WP:ORG or WP:GNG. The article was deleted in 2020 and recreated in 2021, but in my view, the school has not achieved sufficient notability to justify recreating the article. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - There is a ton of WP:NEWSORGINDIA to sift through but I found this. Their notability may be from being part of a diploma mill.--CNMall41 (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Leigh Soto

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Discussed in the aftermath of the shooting at Talk:Victoria_Leigh_Soto/Archive_1#Should_we_merge_this_article_with_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting? but looking back 12 years, I don't see any sustained notability independent of the shooting nor material that couldn't be summarized at Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Legacy. Bringing here v. requested merge as it's a subject deserving of broad consensus. Star Mississippi 01:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I come here once a year to reread her story. Please let this stay! 76.36.132.1 (talk) 20:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP - This article should be kept because she was a notable heroric teacher.She has since been hailed as a hero. She is a posthumous recipient of the Presidential Citizens Medal.Plans and petitions to honor her by name via scholarships, roads, and schools were announced in late 2012 and 2013.In 2013, Acero Victoria Soto High School opened in Chicago, Illinois. The Nutmeg Big Brothers Big Sisters organization created the "Victoria Soto Volunteer Award" in honor of Soto, who was a former Nutmeg mentor.In June 2013, a playground in Long Brook Park in Stratford was named the "Victoria Soto Memorial Playground" in her honor. Only a notable heroric person like would have been honored as such. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- it's a one-event article, which would normally be a delete, but sometimes the one event generated enough external notable citations AND a really well cited and written article that this side overrides (it's not at the same level, but Lee Harvey Oswald is certainly a one-event person as well). The article shows external notability after the event with a school named after her, a playground, and an award. The one-event was so big as to require multiple subsidiary articles to contain all the independent coverage, and this is one of those (well-dritten) articles. Keep -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 08:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect and selective Merge to Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting per WP:BIO1E and WP:Victim. Mztourist (talk) 10:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. She gave her life for her students like Jesus Christ gave His life for the whole world. This article should be kept because no one who didn't know her personally won't get to know what she did. This page is like a memorial to her for those who won't get to see her gravesite. Kellygirlaj (talk) 17:52, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note -Victoria Leigh Soto sacrificed her life by covering her students with her body, therefore she safed the lives of many of them.

Had this been a act in the military, she would have been awarded the "Medal of Honor". However it was a heroic civiian act and as such her heroism as been recognized by the president and her community therefore making her notable. If every "Medal of Honor" recipient has an article, then she should also have hers. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is the second-highest civilian award in the United States, so not equivalent to the Medal of Honor. Also it was a joint award with 5 others. What makes Soto any more notable than any of the other 5 awardees? Mztourist (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note The medal recognizes an individual "who has performed exemplary deeds or services for his or her country or fellow citizens." However among the additional recognitions which she has been awarded are the following: In 2012, Eastern Connecticut State University created the Victoria Leigh Soto Endowed Memorial Scholarship Fund, awarded to students aiming to become teachers.In 2012, the Town of Stratford renamed North Parade, adjacent to town hall, "Victoria Soto Way".In December 2012, the Stratford High School Class of 2003 established the "Victoria L. Soto Memorial Fund" in her honor. The fund helped pay for funeral services, the creation of a memorial at Stratford High School, and a scholarship fund in the name of Soto, who had belonged to the class of 2003. Yes, she is notable. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, we can read the page. Don't add pictures to an AFD: [32] Mztourist (talk) 04:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:BIO1E is a general rule that admits exceptions. This is one of them. Rather than thinking of it as something that should be wedged into the article about the event, we should regard it as a reasonable spinoff. XOR'easter (talk) 00:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The main article is very long as is, and this is on a notable subtopic. BIO1E isn't end-all be all and there is enough material for an individual article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, hoping to see some policy-based arguments. Having a playground named after a subject doesn't establish notability as defined on Wikipedia.
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Keep and Ignore all rules for this genuine selfless hero who knowingly traded her own life to save the children. She wasn't just a person who happened to be in the wrong place and got shot. She deliberately put herself in harm's way trying to save those children. — Maile (talk) 03:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She is a hero and got a award for trading own life. Clearly notable. RealStranger43286 (talk) 05:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. I think that the coverage is persistent enough to overcome the standard of WP:BIO1E; she is often mentioned in pieces about the shooting, although these mentions tend to be brief, I (weakly) think it is enough. The current article does tend towards the kind of thing discussed in WP:NOTMEMORIAL and could perhaps be trimmed, but as usual, deletion is not cleanup. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 20:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jalal khel

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Another administrator said that a clan (tribe) is not subject to WP:A7. I disagree, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm nominating it for deletion. I have no idea how to evaluate whether a clan meets WP:GNG. I suspect, though, that others in the community are more knowledgeable. Bbb23 (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The above article mentions Jalal Khel or Jalalkhel clan is a sub-division of Mahsud Wazir larger

Pashtun tribe. In my brief search, I saw this.....Mehsuds and Wazirs, the King-makers in a game of thrones on khyber.org website...Ngrewal1 (talk) 06:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge this stub with Mahsud if the information in it is verifiable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Terry Blade

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Nominated on behalf of a non-autoconfirmed user claiming to be the article subject:

Does not meet Wikipedia criteria for notability BladeTerry (talk) 01:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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I am the subject of this article, Terry Blade.
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I am the subject of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Blade. I don't think it meets the notability criteria for an article on Wikipedia. The article is semi-protected. I'd like to request that an editor nominate it for deletion please? BladeTerry (talk) 01:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Keep. There are enough sources here to merit an article per WP:GNG. The context of this AFD attempt is that I created a sockpuppet case page at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Roberteditor, tying together a bunch of IPs and some socks that have been editing the Terry Blade bio and related pages. Two hours and change later, User:BladeTerry registered the username to delete the bio. My guess is that the history of socking is what BladeTerry wants deleted. Binksternet (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutabali

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The subject has only written a single text, apart from which, there is no other biographical information available. Hence, low notability. Not many WP:RS mention the subject. Moreover, the same information as on this page is also available on the page Satkhandagama. Tagging other active users of this project and those who responded to a similar AfD previously: User:RJShashwat, User:Goyama, User:Expectopatronum30, User:TheAstorPastor. To fellow editors: please feel free to not respond if you didn't wish to be tagged here. I apologize for the same. ParvatPrakash (talk) 00:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete — Per nominator. Not seeing notability… or rather, not seeing the RSs to support alleged notability. Semi-merger or merger with Satkhandagama should be considered. MWFwiki (talk) 01:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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If there aren't more sources redirect to Satkhandagama. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find any more sources. Whichever I found only state that he wrote Satkhandagama, nothing more than that. I couldn't find any other biographical information about him. ParvatPrakash (talk) 03:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: No notability except authorship of Satkhandagama. Didn't find any personal information about him that would enhance his biography. Goyama (talk) 07:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Poor notability. I am not sure if he even existed cause of the scarce information about him. RJShashwat (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from nom: Even though some sources were added after nomination, they all still say the same thing that the subject is said to have authored a text. I feel, in that case, an article on Satkhandagama as it already exists would be enough instead of a separate article about the author about whom nothing is known apart from the information that he authored the said text. The text seems to be more notable than the author himself. ParvatPrakash (talk) 06:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dongergah

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Completely fails Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features), is unsourced, is an orphan, and is dedicated to a god with virtually no coverage outside of wikipedia. The place doesn't even had coordinates. Gaismagorm (talk) 00:02, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with the already existing article of Dongargarh as this article fails to meet WP:NGEO and WP:GEOFEAT. QEnigma (talk) 05:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Changing the stance from merge to delete, as a dedicated article on this subject, Bambleshwari Temple ([33]), already exists, along with an article about the town of Dongargarh. Therefore, redirecting or maintaining the article in question is unnecessary. QEnigma (talk) 11:36, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect, do not merge as it's unsourced. Geschichte (talk) 13:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the original 2006 Dongargarh. — Maile (talk) 17:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]