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SAS Phase 2 tunnel

Governor Hochul and MTA Leadership Tour Second Avenue Subway Tunnel. What does it mean? When was this tunnel built? Are they resuming the construction? Vcohen (talk) 20:28, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] says MTA has an announcement to make about Phase 2, but they had to postpone making it. DMacks (talk) 22:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some day it will be built like the Guoliang Tunnel. Vcohen (talk) 22:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is an update there. Vcohen (talk) 21:03, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To answer the original question, the tunnel segment in question was built back in the 1970s as part of the last attempt to build the Second Ave Subway before the city's financial difficulties shut down construction. When the current 2nd Ave Subway was finally built, the existing tunnel segment just north of the 96th St station was partly incorporated as the tail tracks for laying up trains, which stretch all the way up to what will be the south end of the 106th St station, while the other completed segment runs about 10 blocks from what will be the north end to near 120th Street. The part between the ends will be dug out to build the 106th Street station using cut-and-cover techniques, while the part north of there will require more extensive work to build out the curve under 125th Street, including the terminal station and new rail tracks. The 116th Street station will require modifications to the existing tunnel segment. But even with all that the existence of the previously-built segments means that phase II should go faster than phase I.

Phases 3 & 4 are another story entirely. oknazevad (talk) 22:06, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Manhattan?

It must be in Manhattan, despite the word Tompkinsville in the file name. Where could there be such a curve? Vcohen (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I take the Library of Congress info for the original photo to mean that the photographer was A. Loeffler, from Tompkinsville, N.Y., not that the photo itself was of Tompkinsville.[2] Google has lots of images of many places credited to that person+place. For more info about that person, see [3] and [4]. DMacks (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

3rd Ave El at Coenties Slip? See the description at [5], which is a different photo taken from the same location. The building signage is Moore & Calvi, a major tobacco company; its advertising cards seem to be popular collectables now. This photo [6] appears to be from the same end of the S curve but on the other side of the tracks; many details of the buildings facing the far end of the visible trackage match. DMacks (talk) 22:26, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Central

Which station of the Grand Central station complex does this entrance lead to? Vcohen (talk) 20:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Vcohen, if this is the Oyster Bar & Restaurant in the background, then this isn't even an entrance to a subway station, but rather a stair from the lower level of the Metro-North platforms. It leads directly below the lower concourse to one of the MNR platforms. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:31, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly the Oyster Bar appearing in the windows, but its signs are backwards. Is this whole image mirrored, or is it just a weird perspective or a transparent sign seen from the back-side? File:GCT OB 2.jpg is the full front-on view, and in that Commons image it appears that the panes adjacent to the stairs are mirrored, so if the photographer is facing slightly to the right, the sign would be reflected in it. DMacks (talk) 04:22, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Judging from the angle, it seems File:Staircase to Subway Station, Grand Central Terminal, New York City, NY.jpg is indeed facing the right wall of the entrance, which would explain the Oyster Bar Restaurant sign being mirrored in the windows. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

View from the Bay Ridge Branch

At the very far end I see a bridge (and another one behind it), a platform with a canopy, and a train. Not sure if the train's bullet is orange. The only option that I can think about is 62nd Street (BMT West End Line). According to the order of the bridges, we are looking from east to west. If so, why does the track turn left after the bridges? And finally, should there be only one track at that point? Vcohen (talk) 11:02, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The view is looking from west to east from atop the 11th Ave overpass looking toward 13th Ave (the near overpass) and 62nd St station on the West End Line. The Sea Beach Line is just out of view to the right, while the Bay Ridge Branch curves northward (to the left) just past the station. In other words, you have the right station, but you got the direction backwards. oknazevad (talk) 13:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to misread the distances to the bridges. When I was asking the question I thought that here 3 was a bridge located behind the station 1. Do you mean that 2 is 13th Ave, and 1 and 3 are parts of the station construction? Vcohen (talk) 15:26, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The nearest overpass (not counting the one the photographer is standing on) is 13th Ave, while the ones behind it are 14th Ave and New Utrecht Ave with the West End Line's 62nd St station above it. 14th and New Utrecht cross at an angle just to the left of the photo and so you can't really see the separate bridge behind 14th. oknazevad (talk) 18:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I have understood you correctly. Thanks! Vcohen (talk) 20:36, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Old drawing

The file description says River Street. I managed to find one River Street in Brooklyn, but I don't think it's it. Is/was there any River Street in Manhattan? Vcohen (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]