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The discussion was on whether the subject of the article is the primary topic for the name "Shiv Sena" however none of the participants have provided any evidence as to the effect. If you consider the pageviews then neither topic is primary. Thus I request you to reverse the move and reopen the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talkcontribs) 10:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for discussing this here, Arnav Bhate. That's the process we need to follow, and we can't usefully sidestep it.
But the PT discussion to which you refer was not the basis for the close. You are providing additional arguments. Whether or not they are relevant to the name, they are not now relevant to the close.
The history of the articles involved is already complicated enough without making it more so as you propose here.
I certainly agree that the results to date are not good.
I suggest yet another discussion, but this time as an informal discussion listing all of the topics (including both Shiv Sena (disambiguation) and a possible set index article) that might go by the title of Shiv Sena, and trying to reach a consensus as to (1) what articles we should have (that needs to be agreed first) and (2) the title each should have.
Where political party names are concerned, this sort of controversy is neither rare nor easily resolved. Andrewa (talk) 04:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened a proposal to merge Shiv Sena (2022–present) into Shiv Sena, if that succeeds then there is no argument about the primary topic, which would be the resulting article from the merge. If it fails, then a move proposal back to Shiv Sena (1966–2022) would be enough to decide the question, I think. Arnav Bhate (talkcontribs) 07:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect You lose to the article Godwin's law has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 14 § You lose until a consensus is reached. 67.209.128.30 (talk) 03:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]